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Post by Enjorous on Dec 19, 2010 7:45:04 GMT
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Post by Hollowgo on Dec 20, 2010 19:51:18 GMT
Indeed.
To be more on topic, I don't know if I mentioned it or not, but I like stories that take their time in getting Bella and Alice together. Having it be a single chapter and they automatically fall for each other is kinda lame in my opinion. I didn't mind it for What Goes Up, but for most other stories, I'd prefer that they build the relationship.
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Post by Enjorous on Dec 20, 2010 20:42:03 GMT
Yup, realism is a thing that I've found to be kinda lacking in ff recently.
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Post by samaramorgane on Jan 11, 2011 3:54:39 GMT
I agreed with what it been said but I don't mind fics that include other mystical creature but it have to make sense!Like this fic on FF call Demons by Luwee(if I remember well) that have Bella and OC's are demons!I thought it was a good one!
I'm someone ithat is hard to please but I must say that fic that stuff I to much rushed,I don't like!I don't know how to explain it!You know like you feel like it's made in a childlid way like it was a 14 years old that have write it!I'm not saying that a 14 years old cannot write (exptialy I don't pretend myself to be a good writer myself) but you could feel like a probleme is solve is like...I don't know...weird!I don't know if you see what I mean but yeah!Another thing,I usaly don't like when 1. of the girl is already with someone and their relation keep dragging on 2.One of the girl is considered like a player (or haved sleeped around alot)!Don't get me wrong,I'm not saying they should be vigirn or saint but I prefer when they have just had like 1,2 or 3 lovers before!Mostly if they are humans (though having many lovers for vampire could be understable!
Like I said,I'm not difficult I like AU with big twist to the normal humain Bella is new to school fall for Alice in the cafeteria and blah blah blah!
Oh,I just remembered!I hate also the the fics that fallow the fuc.... pattern than the books be switch just the names!I meant in the sense like Bella is the vampire and Alice is the human and Bella like is just the woman version of Edward so she is overprotective like him and stuff and everything happen like it happen in the books!Same storylines!It's I hate the way Edward is acting in the books and I'm not like it more coming from Bella or Alice and it's suppose to be a FANFICTION not a transcription of the books with the switching of place!Stuff can happen like the baseball scene or the cafeteria scene but it should be made up in the way is like the actual charaters might act or the way you want them to act!Not a copy of the book!Anyway,I hope you can see what I mean!
Sorry for the big post!
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Post by Enjorous on Jan 11, 2011 4:16:10 GMT
There are a few, very few, that have been able to pull off the Twilight rewrite decently well. Most of them skip over the little things, and hit the big points and have very little connecting them.
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Post by Wendy on Jan 18, 2011 16:56:53 GMT
In my story, it took them three chapters to become friends [of course, I had a bit of a time-skip] and eight-ish chapters after that for them to become more than friends...Is that too much?
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Post by Enjorous on Jan 18, 2011 19:27:23 GMT
To much? I don't think so, I've read stories *coughJTcough* where it took the better part of 17 chapters for them to get together.
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Post by Wendy on Jan 19, 2011 2:36:44 GMT
I hardly have patience for those, although if the friendship thing is fun to read, then it could be well worth it...
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Post by Enjorous on Jan 19, 2011 2:38:48 GMT
Well there was enough of a plot going in in those to keep you wanting to go on. Like a random "they're going to" moment and then they don't.
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Post by Wendy on Jan 19, 2011 2:40:18 GMT
I've done that with my story. The first time, they got their...activities...interrupted by Charlie, and the second time, Alice wasn't sure if Bella was ready yet. I love teasing my readers, does that make me evil?
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Post by Enjorous on Jan 19, 2011 2:41:55 GMT
Yes, but in a good way.
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Post by Wendy on Jan 19, 2011 2:43:11 GMT
*phew* I was beginning to get worried |
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Post by lysystrata on Jan 24, 2011 6:08:11 GMT
Hmmmm I prefer conflict to angst. There are some who don't realize the difference though I'm sure all here do. Insofar as other types of creatures (i.e. things other than shapeshifters or vampires) I don't have much tolerance for that yet one of my favorite stories prominently features a half harpy and a half siren. Not only that but MY main story is going to end with what I think is a logical explanation (within the context of a fantasy universe) as to how vampires came to exist in the first place. And it involves non-canon beings.
I look forward to reaching that point if only because my explanation is bound to offend someone, somewhere.
I read FF and write it for the same reason though. I'm in love with words. Today I was secretly delighted because I used the words slattern, philandering and cacophonous in perfect context within my story. That is to say I used them because they were the words that belonged there, they were not shoehorned in. When I read other authors do things of that nature it tickles, it feels good just as it felt good when I did so.
I like the Alice/Bella pairing because, frankly, in a perfect world I'd be one of them. For me that is the ultimate tribute to a well written story. When you can read it and in spite of whatever horrible tribulations the character you identify with is going through you still say to yourself, I wish I was her.
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Post by azb on Jan 24, 2011 12:39:28 GMT
What do I like in an Alice/Bella?
Alice. Bella. Bella has to have an idea about what she wants. Not her spotting Alice from across the crowded Washington State and immediately deciding she's in love, but she has to know herself to an extent. She has to be able to recognise what she doesn't want in a relationship, just as much as what she does.
Of course, I would say I love Bella being kept in character, but there's really not much of a character to be kept in. Oh, sure, she loves her dad and all that jazz, but beyond that? We're not given too much.
So it's really what I don't want to read in a character in general, rather than Bella specifically. I can sometimes have trouble with morality, in stories. If someone does something wrong for the wrong reasons, I have a hard time following through, if there are no immediately apparent redeemable qualities/angles/motives behind it. Because if I end up hating a character, there better be some awesome supporting characters or freaking incredible writing to keep me with it. I think I'm just outrageously judgmental.
Bellice ideas? It's so often Bella's the pursued. She's the desirable one, despite her one, completely unacceptable and tragically insurmountable flaw that distances her so callously from all her normal peers, and I would love to see some more stories where it's the other way around. Where Alice has to decide where she wants to stand with their relationship, where Bella is the one putting her heart on the line.
Which sounds like a crap romance novel. Damn. Standards, standards, where the freaking hell have you gone, dear Standards?
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Post by megster1992 on Jan 24, 2011 16:04:17 GMT
lysystrata I think I knew which story you're referring to. Immortality, right? The author is actually on this forum. As for me, I like to see Bella have character other than her whiny push-over self, if that makes sense? That's why in a newer story I have, she's going to be very independent and doesn't take shit from anybody because...well, she doesn't need to. Of course, she's going to have a bit of an attitude and temper to her as well but what else can you expect from a werewolf? 
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