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Post by Hollowgo on Dec 23, 2010 8:07:42 GMT
Meh. This isn't an OC warzone. This is a topic where people tell me what they think of my ideas and what stories they'd like to see. So > to you.
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Post by Enjorous on Dec 23, 2010 15:19:33 GMT
You started it by telling me you'd sic Amara on me. Was I not supposed to be able to defend myself?
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Post by Twigon on Dec 23, 2010 16:48:21 GMT
Fictional characters are rocks. No matter how many times you reread the story they will always act the same, do the same things, fall in love with the same person.
In a life were anything could happen, it is nice to have something solid you can go back to. You could die tomorrow, but nothing will ever change the characters in a book.
Philosophical enough for you?
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Post by Enjorous on Dec 23, 2010 17:19:59 GMT
Pretty much. But I mean if I have a character behave a certain way throughout a book and have him/her act a different way at one moment, people will claim that it's out of character. Even though if a living person did that people would chalk it up to "a bad day."
We're told that fictional characters should be as close to real people as possible. But in certain ways fictional characters are more real than real people. Maybe I'm the only one who finds this disjunct odd.
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Post by Twigon on Dec 23, 2010 19:03:17 GMT
No, I see what you mean. When people come to expect something from a fictional character, they can complain to the person who made them act differently. In real life, the only person you can complain to about acting differently is the person who acted differently, and then it is awkward.
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Post by Hollowgo on Dec 24, 2010 1:20:19 GMT
Hence why authors utilize the term "OOC" for doing such things.
Personally, I don't see a need. I establish characters the way that I would interpret them and in some cases it's like how the original author (unless I'm the original author of said character) had them act and sometimes (like in the case of, say, Edward in Blood Solstice) I alter them in a way that I see fit. I'm still wondering how I managed to make Edward likable. I hate his character in Twilight.
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Post by Enjorous on Dec 24, 2010 1:33:22 GMT
I'm not talking just in fan fiction. I'm talking in fiction as a whole.
I think what actions the characters take come down to motivations, if a character has a clear motivation then anything he/she does will then make sense.
And HG, you'd be surprised how characters you're supposed to hate often turn out to be favorites.
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Post by Hollowgo on Dec 24, 2010 1:39:00 GMT
The day Edward ever becomes my favorite character is the day that I quit writing altogether. Which ain't ever gonna happen. It was painful writing in Jacob's POV for one of the epilogues too, since he's another character I dislike. Oh well.
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Post by Enjorous on Dec 24, 2010 1:41:08 GMT
Why? Because they're both abusive manipulative males who really should just lay it on the table and measure.
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Post by Hollowgo on Dec 24, 2010 2:08:56 GMT
Because they're both abusive manipulative jackasses that should have never existed in the first place.
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Post by Enjorous on Dec 24, 2010 2:15:45 GMT
Nah, they should exist. They give us a common enemy to rally around.
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Post by Hollowgo on Dec 24, 2010 2:23:14 GMT
That's true. They do make fun villains for people to hate.
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Post by Enjorous on Dec 24, 2010 2:26:39 GMT
pfft but they're not even cool enough to be villains. Neither of them have a black mustache and a black cape
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Post by Hollowgo on Dec 24, 2010 2:29:32 GMT
Meh. It's easy to make them hated, though. They may not be cool, but if you get enough people to hate them, then they become villains that people want to see dead.
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Post by Enjorous on Dec 24, 2010 2:31:49 GMT
I like villains that think they're the hero of their own stories. Like the ones that think they're doing the right thing.
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